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#61

Dear gunaguha,
Azolla comes under concentrated type of fodder,it has the highest content of proteins than any other fodder crops.Azolla is cultivated in water tanks or water pits under room temperatures. when Azolla is feeded to mother goats,the mother goats have  shown considerable increase in their  production of milk which is very important for fattening of kids.
Dry fodder includes  remains(pulp) of pulses,dried crops (jowar,bajra,maize) etc which are dried in sunlight so that they can be preserved and store as a fodder for longer duration.
Goats are generally feeded three times in a day –morning, afternoon and in the evening for proper digestion of fodder.if you provide them fodder through out the day,they will eat continuously without proper swallowing it which even sometime leads to death.
The schedule for giving green,dry and concentrated fodder is different for different age of goats.
For kids male and female and growing bucks you can feed them with a mixture of all these three at three times.
For mother goats you have to feed green fodder in the morning and at afternoon and dry and concentrated fodder in evening,so that you will get continues flow of milk at day time which is require for kids at day time.
Regards,
Dr.Shaikh
www.osmanabadigoat.com
www.goatfarm.co.in


#62

Hello everyone - We have recently embarked on goat farming and discovered an interesting dilemma. There is a lot of interesting information on Boer and osmanabadi breeds on the forum but most of this is related to rearing and breeding - not goat purchase or meat.

In our experience, we have seen a lack of demand for the Boer and osmanabadi goat meat in the south (Tamil Nadu, Kerela and Karnataka). Vast majority of wholesalers, processors and butchers want the country goat variety and do not prefer the bigger, bulkier (and better looking!) Boer or osmanabadi variety.

It may very well be that our research yielded this result so wanted to get in touch with folks who have successfully sold Boer or osmanabadi variety for meat on a regular basis. It will help a lot of early stage entrepreneurs who may otherwise find it difficult later on to sell their grown goats.


#63

Hi Dr.Shaikh,
Thanks so much for your information & your time to answering my queries
For breeding bucks , meat Goats- what concentrate ration do you perfer ( As per the link you have provided it has the ration for  Kid ration ,Growing Ration,Lactating Goat Ration, Pregnant goat Ration )
Thanks


#64

Dear,
gunaguhan,
Growing Ration is for breeding bucks and meat goats.
regards,
Dr.shaikh
www.goatfarm.co.in


#65

Dear Dr.
As you said Azolla is a concentrate feed, is it to be fed to animals as a separate feed or has to mix with the other concentrate feed.
If it needed to be mixed with concentrate feed,

  1. is it replaces maize, pulses, bran or oil cakes
  2. or it has to be fed certain % of the concentrate feed

Thanks


#66

[quote="nkjohri"]
Hello everyone - We have recently embarked on goat farming and discovered an interesting dilemma. There is a lot of interesting information on Boer and osmanabadi breeds on the forum but most of this is related to rearing and breeding - not goat purchase or meat.

In our experience, we have seen a lack of demand for the Boer and osmanabadi goat meat in the south (Tamil Nadu, Kerela and Karnataka). Vast majority of wholesalers, processors and butchers want the country goat variety and do not prefer the bigger, bulkier (and better looking!) Boer or osmanabadi variety.

It may very well be that our research yielded this result so wanted to get in touch with folks who have successfully sold Boer or osmanabadi variety for meat on a regular basis. It will help a lot of early stage entrepreneurs who may otherwise find it difficult later on to sell their grown goats.
[/quote]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Dear Dr. Shaikh Saab , We are very eagerly awaiting for your valuable clarification on this question raised by Sri nkjohri. pl give your experienced true opinion on the above, as I also want to start a small goat farm in my agri land as side earning source by selling goats for meat.  thanking you sir.


#67

Hi Rao Sir,

Some of Dr. Shaikh comments are in this link

farmnest.com/forum/animal-farmin … 6/#msg8906

According to the discussion in above post growing goats for mutton (meat) is easily marketable than breeding.

For more info on osmanabadi goats I hope Shaikh will clarify and come up with more info

Venkatesh


#68

Dear gunaguha,
You can feed it in any ways by mixing or separately.
Azolla replaces the maize and pulses and other protein rich fodders,as most of the proteins are supplied to goats via azolla.
Regards,
DR.shaikh
www.osmanabadigoat.com
www.goatfarm.co.in


#69

Dear g.p.rao and venkatesh,
I don’t know on what basis nkjohri has conducted the research.Boer is a foreign breed whereas as osmanabadi is an Indian local breed,so no comparison between them.Its totally wrong that osmanabadi goat breed has lack of demand for meat purpose,if it has then it should not be breed all over India in a large scale.Again osmanabadi goat breed is not bigger and bulkier its an intermediate breed has weight and body structure lower than sirohi,sojat and jamanapari.If osmanabadi is bigger and bulkier than sirohi,sojat and jamanapari should be even more bigger and bulkier than osmanabadi and these breed should not have to be any demand in market as per their size.check this midday article link at the time of Eid where sirohi weights 3 quintal(300kg) as said by farmer - mid-day.com/news/2009/nov/28 … Shaikh.htm
Whereas osmanabadi weights maximum of 70 kg in any conditions.Sirohi is widely consumed in north india which is a very huge goat and has a great demand there.If such a huge goat is consumable and has demand then there should be no problem in consumption of osmanabadi breed,whose size and weight is far lower than sojat,jamnapari and sirohi.
Osmanabadi goat breed is slaughtered for meat purpose in all parts of India,only the thing is not know that slaughtering breed is an osmanabadi(black colour breed) may be it is of cross breed or low grade osmanabadi breed.
Most of the goats are slaughtered at the age of 5-7 months(weight 15kg-25kg) ,at this age the palatability(taste) of meat is high,so the prices of this goats are high when they are compare with adults,and they gets easily sold in market as compare to adult goats.Butchers buys these goats on a large scale,only if the total goats price should be less than the meat
The point is that nkjohri has not seen any pureline osmanabadi goat breed and compared it with boer without seeing it,And leads to the conclusion that osmanabadi breed must be bulkier and bigger,so it should also not have demand in market as that of boer.
Boer wont have demand in local market, the main reason for it is of price.Price rates of boer goats exceeds the meat prices so no butchers buys it .Whereas osmanabadi goat breed is the cheapest breed and prices are lower than that of meat prices.So butchers buys it as they earns lots of profits after slaughtering it.Any goat in market doesn’t has demand only when it is sold for a price which is higher than meat price.
Alana is meat importing company,which imports goat meat in gulf country.50% of its meat imported is of osmanabadi only,as it is a low cost breed and has higher taste and which is very profitable for company.
In Tamil nadu,kerala and Karnataka osmanabadi goat breeds are reared on large scale as they gets easily adaptable to any climatic conditions,has high resistant power and low prices.
There are other lots of things to write,to show the demand of osmanabadi goat breeding local market,but time doesn’t permits me.so I have explain it in brief.
*Sirohi is compare,just to explain  Indian breed in  proper way. 
Regards,
Dr.Shaikh
www.goatfarm.co.in
www.osmanabadigoat.com


#70

COULD PLEASE GIVE DETAILS OF FARMS BREEDING OSMANABADI IN TAMILNADU ALSO GIVE THE CUREENT PRICE OF LIVE FEMALE AND MALE GOAT
SUNDAR


#71

  Dr Shaikh Saab, I am very much impressed with your clarifications. Will you please send me a private message to me about the cost of Male goats 5 nosof 2 years age and female goats of age 1 year or less and to send to .  Bangalore, from which part of India is best to send g.p.rao,  farmer,  karnataka.


#72

Dear sundarsmnm,
Visit your districts livestock development office or inquire about it to any veterinarians,they will surely give you the detail adress of such farms.
For price quote email us at contact@goatfarm.co.in
Regards,
Dr.shaikh
www.goatfarm.co.in


#73

thankyou Dr.Shaikh

Impressed with your reply and more informative abt the ppl and the market.

venkatesh


#74

Dear venkatesh and  g.p.rao,
All the information which i have provided is based on local markets and my goat farming experiences.I have spent most of my life span in local goat markets and in breeding goats at our associate goat farms, so the information provided is based on current events which is most useful for new and old goat farmers.
Regards,
Dr.shaikh
www.goatfarm.co.in
www.osmanabadigoat.com


#75

Dear Memebers,
Recently there was an Government livestock exhibition in Tamilnadu where different types of Indian goat breeds are exhibited along with osmanabadi,thalachery,sirohi ,boer etc.
More and more such type of livestock exhibitions should be conducted all over India,so that old goat farmers can promote their goats sale and  the new goat farmers who are starting their new goat farms can learn some goat farming knowledge regarding different types of goat breed.
In this exhibition,Boer goat laps up attention of visitors.
Check this link- [glow=red,2,300]http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/boer-goat-laps-up-attention-at-livestock-expo/article4640842.ece[/glow]


#76

Hi Dr,

What would be the kidding % in Osmanabadi Goats, How many % has Single Kidding, Twin and Triplets


#77

Kidding percentage of pureline osmanabadi goats-
Single-10%
twins-40%
triplets-40%
quadriplets-10%
However, kidding percentage mainly depends on ones goat farming practices like how you supply the green,dry and concentrated fodder, mating of does with proper bucks etc.
Regards,
Dr.Shaikh
www.goatfarm.co.in
www.osmanabadigoat.com


#78

Dr.

As you said 75% of the feed should be green fodder , Is this includes monocot and dicot plant, Also what ratio of green fooder these cotyledon should be fed for a breeding goat also for a meat goat?


#79

Green fodder includes both monocot and dicot fodder crops,you can keep any ratio as per the availability.Keep the same ration for breeding and meat goats,don’t feed meat goats too much,this will increase the fat content of meat.Breeding goats utilizes the feeded fodder for production of milk and proper development of kids in embryo,whereas meat goats utilizes the same fodder for proper body growth as they are growing goats where as breeding goats are already matured .So there is no problem in keeping the same ration for breeding and meat goats.
Regards,
Dr.Shaikh
www.goatfarm.co.in
www.goatfarming.net


#80

Goat Farming-Essential tips to set up  a Goat House( in short).
Some people that are in goat farming business do not provide shelters for their goats.
They let them find shelter in cedar thickets, under rock ledges or any other suitable shelter which the goats come across.
But your goats will do better for your goat farming and require less feed if they have shelter from rain, wind, and cold in winter.
Making your goat a proper house means that it should alter or modify the environment for the benefit of your goat and also protect them from predation and theft which will always be beneficial for your goat farming business.
Your goat house should buffer your goats from climate extremes to reduce stress allowing optimal performance in terms of growth, health and reproduction.
It’s enough if the goats are provided with a:
• dry,
• comfortable,
• safe and secure place,
• free from worms,
• affording protection from excessive heat and cold
• adequate space for movement
• Separate compartments for kids and pregnant mothers
• inclement weather.
It is worthwhile to design a cheap house for goats which may result in increased milk and meat production for your goat farming business.
Regards,
Dr.Shaikh
www.goatfarm.co.in
www.osmanabadigoat.com