BRINJAL IN PRECISION FARMING EARNED Rs.5.16 LAC FROM AN ACRE IN A YEAR

Dear Ramu Sir,
writing such longs posts must be painful along with your other commitments.
i will keep using suffix “Sir” even though you don’t to , because of your kindness of sharing your knowledge and experience.
great work you are doing. please keep it up.

about me, i am Software professional and working abroad,
its fun to be s/w Engineer till 5-7 years but not after that , as one become more and more senior, gets stressed more.
i am struggling to find way out , and farming showing me one. I understand initially with zero knowledge i can’t make as much as my salary ,
but thats ok with me , i will be at least not stressed , and i will be very healthy.
qualification and job experience will help me a lot while marketing , also with experience and learning modern
technologies with gurus like you , SKY IS THE LIMIT.

to start with i have first question about soil,
my ancestral land at Jalgaon,Maharashatra is deep/medium-deep black cotton soil (10-20 feet deep).
people of neighboring village cultivate chili , but my father says it doesn’t grow well in our village.
so people at my place are stuck with cotton,green and black grams, sesame,jowar cultivating traditionally.

  1. is it possible to grow vegetables in this soil.
  2. if i do precision farming will it be successful enough comparable to your examples of 80 ton of brinjal.
  3. what are ways to improve black soil , will raised beds be enough or i need to add huge amount of red soil or sand or any other organic/non organic material to improve soil.
  4. which vegetable crops will be good to grow.
  5. any other suggestions tips welcome , from other members too.

Dear friend
Black cotton soil is otherwise fertile soil provided the soil is managed properly

Test your soil for the parameters like cation exchange capacity and organic matter content

Generally cotton sesame , jowar , green gram crops are grown in Rainfed area with less than average rainfall region
Jalgon area in Maharashtra is witnessing lot of model agriculture farm in India
Provided you have enough water / assured water sources , you can cultivate vegetables in precision farming
No profession in this world is free of stress …
When you do farming properly , definitely you can earn more than salaried job
But you should do cultivation on commercial connotation …Farming for passion or without definite goal or idea will sure land you in trouble …you need to convert every rupee that is invested into soil …
If you really feel farming sees you in a right place then you can do or else you can continue in the present job inspite of stress …
You need minimum 5 acres land to earn an income that is not lower than your present salary
Regards

Dear Ramu Sir,
thank you for your useful suggestions and a friendly advice.

i will test soil and check for ‘cation exchange capacity’ .
‘organic matter content’ i am sure it must be nil. people there burn farm waste. i could understand how much wrong practices
are carried , only after i started exploring things few months back.

it’s very true that every profession has some stress ,
in-spite of it, chasing your own dreams is always satisfying than someone else’s.
its only from Business prospective, will start creating biz. plan once i gather necessary information.
i have even set 5th,10th year revenue targets (good health, satisfaction comes as dividend :slight_smile: )

i see farming as right place to be and this is the right time.
i think young professionals working in cities, many of whom are from farming families, can make farming highly profitable and rewarding,
and set example for fellow farmers in their localities.
thank you once again.

Great …

Hello Ramu Sir,

I had my first harvest of marigold yesterday. its 45 days from DAP. Selling them directly to BigBasket. Also tied up with Reliance Fresh, More, Heritage super markets to supply tomatoes. since its only 45 days, I got only 10kgs. Hoping to increase that number next time, as i see multiple buds now.

Also wanted to share few pics, i see these worms, spiders on Marigold. Please tell me how can i control it. Couple of buds are drying out. I sprayed pesticide for thrips twice in last two weeks, but still see these.

And tomatoes are rottening or falling down, not sure why. Can you please recommend any remedy.

One last thing, from last 2 weeks there was no rain, though i irrigated through drip for 3-4 hrs, i see tomato plants are drying out. i have 4lph laterals laid.
And I’m irrigating about little over quarter acre for 1 cycle. Not sure if its issue with water pressure or my drip system. i dont see the beds getting wet all through, except a little place around the emitter. And i have two rows on either side of the laterals. Can you please help if i’m missing anything.

Thanks,
Rakesh








Great Mr.Rakesh …for worms spray coragen pesticide 0.25 ml in 1 lit water three times at weekly interval
Fruit rot shows Blossom End rot , BEM …stake all the plants properly and apply calcium nitrate fertilizers @ 1 kg in 25 lut water ,two times at weekly interval and thereafter 0.350 kg every 4 days through fertigation
Don’t mix calcium nitrate with any phosphorus containing fertilizers to avoid reaction and clogging of emitters
Judiciously use MAP and KNO3 and also Borax
Apply MN mix either as foliar or drip
You say wetting zone is narrow near emitters …I recall your saying it was black loamy soil …
Use drip judiciously at different rate when applying WSF and othertume just giving water
Any excess or deficit of water will impact the yield
Regards

Dear Rakesh,

Seeing the photos, your soil seems to be losing water into the earth since the soil particles are not holding water. What is the distance between rows of the plants?

I read in one blog that if the soil is consisting of loose particles the water will flow down the earth rather than spread. The story is opposite for clay soils.

I guess you need to try two laterals (12mm is enough) for the two rows to spread water properly.

You can experiment with existing laterals to see how much distance the water spreads and then you can plan accordingly.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Shan

Dear Ramu Sir,

Thanks for the suggestion. Gave the dose of Calcium Nitrate on friday. will repeat this week again. Last week we had good rain. Hopefully my second time plucking fruits will better. Marigold are looking good. Will keep you posted.

@Shan:
I laid mulching sheet for tomato Shan, not sure how can i lay second line of lateral. But will try for Marigold and see. Thanks for sharing the info, was actually talking to my drip guy the other day just about the same thing.

Regards,
Rakesh

Dear Ramu Sir,

Forgot to ask, i’m unable to find Tricantanol here in the local market. Can you recommend any other substitute for it.

Thanks,
Rakesh

Dear Mr.Rakesh

No use of spraying triacontanol now. It is too late . Better try next time .

But you can spray planofix two times from now @ 0.25 ppm at fortnightly interval and also micronutrient spray @ 0.1%

Regards

Namaskar Sri Ramu,

It was good to read about your specific recommendations re: precision farming of brinjal.

Here are some thoughts I had upon reading your prescriptions:

  1. Cocopeat :

this is a sometimes-problematical growing/potting medium. We have studied the role fo growing media rather thoroughly as part of the NASA-CELSS [ Controlled Environment Life Support Systems] project for high yield, high productivity [ yield and productivity not the same!!].

in India, Kamaraj Univ. Madurai, seems to have done useful research regard salt content and particle size properties. Cocopeat in India is sold unsorted with particle sizes 150 micrometers to above 1100 microns. Cocopeat is dumped a s a waste product of the coir industry and there is no fruther attention paid to sodium content, total salt content, and particle size. Have you gone through the literature published in India and elsewhere?

It would be useful if each batch of cocopeat was graded according to particle size and salt content.

Failing that, there could be a role for Horticultural grade, washed, vermiculite and perlite, available from AP, as admixtures to pure cocopeat growing medium. Well-aged compost of rice/ wheat straw, mixed with vermiculite, perlite, medium-coarse size, and some cocopeat of 800-950 microns would be something to try and compare with the cocopeat growing mix suggested here.

I have personally researched the role of growth promoting Pseudomonas, with Prof. Ann Anderson at Utah State University. We have found consistently enhanced growth rates in the greenhouse in both artificial media and field soil. HOWEVER, when field experiments are conducted, the vastly more complex natural environment causes a negation or attenuation of these growth promoting bacteria. In India, we also do not have convincing studies of Pseud. with respect to other soil micro-organisms, including fungi, B. subtilis and other soil fauna.

The rhizosphere ecology of brinjal remains wholly uncharacterized in India, and the quantum and type of root exudates remain unresearched. We know, for example, that pathogen challenge, e.g Pseud. on tomato leaves induces specific types of root exudates that attract specific strains of B. subtilis to the roots where they evoke a Systemic Acquired Resistance reaction on the tomato plant. Why this complicated indirect response to foliar pathogen challenge? We do not know, and in India, it would be helpful to understand the entire system in greater detail than we now choose to.

Eggplant cultivar and rootstock choice:

I am concerned that, as with tomato, we are being misled by fresh weight increases. True, the farmer gets paid only on the basis of fresh weight, not Dry Mass and nutrient content. That said, we are seeing reaction against the bland, watery produce, such as tomatoes. Nati tomatoes sell for a premium.

Indian eggplant has some of the highest DM of all varieties known: some in the Arka series have ~9-10% DM and 27-34% Sucrose within the DM. Please consult the AVRDC Annual Reports for 1997 & 98 for details. We should try and re-import the Indian and other high DM stock held by the AVRDC and continue to improve our own cvs.

It is a common and hugely damaging myth that only F-1 hybrids can generate high yields. This is part of the wicked misinformation that is being fed to the Indian cultivator and extension officials. I am happy to enter into a detailed description of this aspect. Also, I do not find the blanket use of auxin sprays, and growth regulators [GA antagonists] very sound. What is the use of promoting biological fertilizers while being unaware of the complexities of growth regulator usage?

We also need to experiment with hogher-yield strains of parthenocarpic eggplant, tomato and cucurbits to see what results we get under various field conditions in various parts of India.

What varieties ar popular where in India and how to further improve farmer knowledge of such issues is important. Example: The SURATI RAVAIYA class of eggplant have wide recognition and acceptance in Gujarat, the MUKTAKESHI and MAKRA types in Bengal, and the Greenish-white splotched MAKRA type in the Karnataka region around Udupi. ARKA series and the Pusa series have meritorious Open Pollinated cvs. that deserve greater re-selection and improvement.

There are many other ways we can improve nursery practice, from the types of seedling trays to the prescriptions of shade cloth. We are better off understanding the exact levels of PPFD, spectral quality and heat load on the seedlings under various circumstances, rather than rest easy with blanket prescription.

Since some or even many of our field officers are capable individuals, we need to promote ongoing enhancement of their scientific knowledge with refresher courses, and also allow them to profit from part of their extension efforts. The EMBRAPA model of Brazil, modified according to Indian conditions, is a useful way to modernize Indian agricultural production.

We need to focus more carfefully on the light and temperature environment of the seedling nursery, and also the water quality when recommending drip irrigation. IN the absence of flushing, all too common in drip-irrigated farms, we are due for a salinization wake-up call.

I am very interested in adding value to the labor of Indian farmers, especially the small and marginal cultivator who will the ones benefiting most from any enhancement of technical + managerial skills.

Namaskar.

Dear friend
Cocopeat
Your chemical analysis report about cocopeat is righ of course . But we consider it is cheap source of rooting medium compared to vermiculite, perlite that are costly and mostly used in hitech hydroponic cultivation system ( An aggregate system of hydroponic cultivation involving growth medium )
Further the coconut fibre is mostly of lignin that is hard to get decomposed and takes relatively longer time . So we use it just as an inert medium for sowing seeds in protray . It does two functions mainly retaining water and providing mechanical support to the new sprouts until it is ready for transplanting in about 25-45 days depending on the kind of vegetables .Definitely no other function is anticipated from of cocopeat medium . Because the new sprout does not need external nutrients for first 12-15 days until it produce its own true leaves . Then we administer water soluble nutrients @ 0.5% only in about 18 -20 days when the plant exhausted its own food source from original mother seeds as reserve food .
It is only when the seedlings are transplanted in the field where it produce lot of roots and shoots , we need to deliver required nutrient demands of the plants according to the stage and growth rate of plants
Cocopeat is sterilized first .so no question of infectitious pathogen .Also we are using cocopeat in a relatively large scale for protray vegetable nursery and we are getting stunningly better performance .But I dont think it will produce better result when used in direct cultivation in the field…
Regarding F1 hybrid , your version is admissible . Because we generally call first generation progeny as hybrid because of its vigour and vitality besides manifestation of dominant characters that we choose to get .In the subsequent generation the seggregation probelm will occur . The vigor and vitality or manifestation of dominant character do not necessarily imply great success in obtaining higher yield .Because it involves selection process before crossing the parents and even after that we need to check progeny for its behaviour …
In my opinion the real meaning of hybrid has changed a great deal lot over the years now . It is entirely or mostly private multinational seed companies that are ruling the roost in seed industry all over the world . The IPR regime that is lobbied by private MNC companies for the personal growth or profit is a great hindrance for the development of small and marginal farmers .They are wielding great power in international arena . We lost all our genetic material to the private companies that have invested billions and billions of dollars on R& D and obtain IPR rights and make money like anything but our farmers are killed once for all .

Do you think we can survive on these modified seed varieties ? definitely no …Farmers have already started loosing their yield and income . The prevailing weather and climate , poor irrigation water in terms of quantity and quality , continous cultivation of our soil with more chemical fertilizers completely avoiding application of any of the organic manure , dofrestation and dwindling natural vegetation ( that is also a cause for escalated pest incidence in crop plants ) , cultivation of hybrid plants and absence of wild native variety plants are all taking the entire farming community to total peril .
I could see and witness the real happening int he field . One in 30 farmers are growing crops with marginal profit and almost most other farmers eke out their lives on debt and borrowing .They dont know what to do but to blindly follow few farmers that are carried away by private companiy people .
So when entire environment like soil biosphere or soil ecosystem along with wild native crop varieties or otherwise called farmers varieties available with native people were deserted , there is no further use of researching on the complex agriculture environment .
Now what is the trend with the farmer is growing crops above ground in green gouse, polyhouse, nethouse in such a cultivation methods like hydroponics, Aeroponics …
Actually they divorced the plants from land .That means they totally avoided living with microbes.
So environmental change and loss of native crop vareties have entirely modfied the growing enviroenment that wont support profitable crop any more
Also microbes -plant interaction in roots and inside the plant system and its biochemical properties in the plant has least influnce in producing positive result .
When you dont have conducive soil environment that favors rapid and steady proliferation of soil microbes , anything like application of bio fertilizers, or biopesticides or bio fungicides or any commercial organic manure will definitely not produce any significant result as yield and income
Even private company people started manipulating the research report . They have their role in the preparation of the research report . Kindly check it and test the same in the field . I too have tested for the genuinety of the result in the field but rarely find any relavancy .Only very few that too rarely
Blanket recommendation of fertilizers and growth promoters were done in the gone by days . The recent advance in cultivation methods like precision farming technologies propose to use nutrients and growth regulators in a precise manner at right time
The brinjal root ecoolgy can be best studied in wild brinjal plants ,not in hybrid brinjal plants
Further In US the extension department and University are one and same .That is what it is called USDA -United states department of Agriculture .In India extension department and Universities are two different entities that are rarely working or going together
The weather and climate in US and India are totally diffrent . India is monsoon climate with uncertain and unpredictable rainfall pattern , where as US climate is temperate and subtropical and continental climate with lot of pereneal rivers and soil fertility . US people are mixing river water with well water to make irrigation water more nutritious .
SO we have to look in the different context about indian as well as US agriculture
Thanks for your elucidation about Agriculture issues
Regards

Which seeds did you use for Marigold (company and brand). what was the yield and number of plants planted for Marigold…

@vaishak : I bought hybrid saplings from nursery. i have planted about 2500 of them @3rs/plant. And now, every 3-4 days i’m harvesting 15-20 kgs. And i sell these to BigBasket.

Dear Ramu Sir,

I got my first good yield of tomatoes (110kgs) this Monday. Thank You for your support. I’m having a harvest every 3-4 days. So is marigold. Every 3-4 days, i’m plucking flowers of about 15-20 kgs.

Needed some help on tomatoes yield. Can you tell me how can i increase flowering and continue to have yield for another 3-4 months. Since my first 2 harvests got rotten because of BER. I’m planning to continue the crop till november and go for next in December first week. Can you please suggest some steps to have continuous yield. This way i can have better returns.

Also, i’m attaching some pics, need some recommendation here.

As always Thank You for your continued support

Regards,
Rakesh








thanks rakesh for the info… what is big basket paying you owe kg of marigold. aalso does it have presence in udupi

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@vaishak : I bought hybrid saplings from nursery. i have planted about 2500 of them @3rs/plant. And now, every 3-4 days i’m harvesting 15-20 kgs. And i sell these to BigBasket.

Dear Ramu Sir,

I got my first good yield of tomatoes (110kgs) this Monday. Thank You for your support. I’m having a harvest every 3-4 days. So is marigold. Every 3-4 days, i’m plucking flowers of about 15-20 kgs.

Needed some help on tomatoes yield. Can you tell me how can i increase flowering and continue to have yield for another 3-4 months. Since my first 2 harvests got rotten because of BER. I’m planning to continue the crop till november and go for next in December first week. Can you please suggest some steps to have continuous yield. This way i can have better returns.

Also, i’m attaching some pics, need some recommendation here.

As always Thank You for your continued support

Regards,
Rakesh
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Dear Mr.Rakesh

To keep tomato growing endless , first it should be of indeterminate type .If your tomato is determinate , then it stops growing once it produce flower cluster at terminal growing point

Regards

Thank You Ramu sir for the reply. Wanted to know how we can determine whether a plant is determinate or indeterminate.

Dear Mr.Rakesh
better consult with your seed vendor about the type of tomato to know the detail fast or consult with the information on the package containing seeds

Determinate tomato is a type that produce branches more in numbers during initial vegetative growth period and then produce flowers in each branches and the growing tip of the plants ends in flower clusters thus arresting further growth …

The harvest is made in 3-5 times

Indeterminate type tomato is of the type that produce few branches and the growing tip will not produce flower clusters .so it keeps growing to the height of 4-7 meter . The fruit cluster will be borne in the truss / trunk of branches every third node and you can keep it on continous yield .

The first vegetable grown in hydroponics is tomato .

it is the reason why mostly indeterminate type is grown in hitech cultivation involving costly structures like drip and fertigation , mulching sheet and inputs like water soluble fertilizers
Regards

Dear Ramu Sir,

Thank you for explaining the difference. I remember you shared few pics of one of the farmer you worked with who had tomatoes for long period of time and harvested 150MT. did he use in determinant type,or the other. Also are the indeterminant type seeds expensive or of same price as the other, and what are the varieties available. Please share some info around it, probably next crop ill plant those.

Thanks,
Rakesh

Dear Ramu Garu,

Hope you are doing good. As discussed last time regarding my balcony garden for which you suggested process and I posted few photographs of the plants as well.
Since last few weeks I am facing serious issue with all of my plants. I have attached my chili and tomato plant pictures. This is happening with all plants. All plants leafs are getting curled downside and plants are not growing atall for last few weeks. Initially plants looks very good but after 1 to 2 months all plants are having same problem.
I am facing problem in seedlings as well, after few days of germination the bottom part of the seedlings are getting dried. I can say the mortality rate is more than 70 %.
Please go through the images and please guide me the reason and solution for the same.

Regards,
Sushil