Growing capsicum in polyhouse - my experience

hey Aman,
yeah… the detailed day to day schedule (why,what,when, qty, price, combinations etc) is WIP, so is the culture growing steps i use.

this will take me bit of a time. so u’ll have to tolerate.

i am listing the fertilizers (chemicals + botanical) (file attached) i have used from starting, so you can start doing your homework on them.

for the details, i’ll take time aman…

hope his helps.

if you want a 100% organic schedule, i have that as well.

Aman, i am expecting you’ll study the schedule and come up with suggestions and questions for discussions, as you are a grower youself.

Vivek
daily schedule.xls (41.5 KB)

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hey aman!
i too am having a bit of issues with bottle neck shape.
i am using Gallium to over come that. lets see how that works.

any suggestions by you ?

and about the bed width & height and walkway width, my beds are about 90cm in bottom, 80cm on top, height is about 40-50 cms. walkways are about 40cm. i dont think there is any standard for this. but a certain distance should be inbetween the plants for proper space, air flow, sunlight etc.
walkways shouldnt be too small, nor too big to waste space. wide enough for proper movement of buckets, crates , labor, avoid damage to plant etc as per your plan and requirement.

my beds are all uneven, some are 80cm wide, few are 70 and few even 60-65 cm. all because of human error and my less involvement. but the beds are fine, i do not have any problems as such with them.

about support, give me time to click proper pictures, so you’ll get a better idea.
also i am working on a auto coil spring based support system, which once tied to the shoot, will automatically pull the shoot and maintain a certain tension on the strings.

will keep updating about it as well.

Vivek

Hello VIKS

Insufficient potassium results in bottle neck, you could use muriate of potash or 0:0:50 .

thank you

Aman

Aman, 00x00x50 i use, will try and increase the dosage and see the results.

hopefully Ga will give result, as i use it in grapes (water based fruit). so using the same principle in cucumber as well.

Vivek

Which fertilizer are you using to provide gallium to plants ?

And basically low potassium is responsible for almost all the misshapen in cucumber.

Aman

Coal, slow releasing, but effective :slight_smile: one of my personal favourites.

what do u use for Ga?

oh and about using misting in capsicum, arent fogging and misting system the same? :-\ :astonished:

Vivek

foggers are installed on top, but misters are at the drip level. CORRECT ME IF m wrong.
For gerberas foggers are used and for dutch rose misters are used. why ?

Aman

oh yea! right! upper side foggers and bottom foggers . sorry, i didnt realize.

no clue as to why for roses and certain crops, may be crop specific requirement?

maybe misting system cools down the temperature from lower side and goes upwards, and fogging starts from top and then goes down slowly…
maybe depending on the type of setup, cause warm air goes up.

hmmm… interesting topic aman… lets dig more into it.

Vivek

Hi Vivek,

Support & Auto coil support system.

You may find this system useful followed by mhp gardener.

youtube.com/watch?v=TNqhwtfCtFA

he starts explaining this start of the time about the support system ;
Probably economics part has to be worked out,

Anand

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[quote=Viks]
4th crop? awesome!

Mr.Ak, plz start a cucumber growing experience post and i will join u there :slight_smile:

i’ll post the pictures of my cucumber setup, once i am back, so u can help and guide me.
and yes, grow bags indeed, my mistake. so why grow bags? why not open soil beds?

and you have a polyhouse setup right ? cucumbers have like male and female plants, and need artificial pollination (not self pollination like capsicum) so what practise are you doing for that ?

Good day

viVek
[/quote] HELLO VIKS YES CUCUMBER PLANTS HAVE MALE AND FEMALE FLOWERS AND NEED POLLINATORS LIKE HONEY BEES. HAVING MALE AND FEMALE FLOWER ON THE SAME PLANT IS KNOWN AS MONOECIOUS… BUT ANOTHER TYPE IS THERE. IT IS KNOWN AS —PATRHENOCARPIC CUCUMBER— THESE PLANTS SET FRUITS WITHOUT POLLNATION. SO HONEY BEES OR ARTIFICIAL POLLINATION IS NOT REQUIRED. THESE TYPES ARE BEST SUITED FOR POLYHOUSE CULTIVATION. VIKS ARE YOU USING ARTIFICIAL POLLINATION METHODS ? IF SO PL. EXPLAIN. ALSO PL POST YOUR SCHEDULE FOR ORGANIC NUTRIENT SUPPLY.---------------------------------------------------------------- THEN ABT THE PICTURES— IT SEEMS THAT ALL YOUR PLANTS ARE WITH HEALTHY GROWTH. I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE FRUIT SIZE IS SMALL[ though the pic shows only immature fruits]. that may be due to the varietal character. what is the wt of an average fruit? . the plants are in good shape and i wish you bumper harvest. ----the crop is in polyhouse or under shadenet?
abt fruit malformation—most probably due to pottasium deficiency as told by aman. correct it and the malformation will stop.----
HI NEWAGRO— YES I AM USING COIR PITH MIXED WITH SOME ORGANIC MANURE AS MEDIUM

hello coal ??? i dont understand . pl explain MR VIKS

Hello mr. ak

Please post some pictures of your cucumber production and if possible please start a new blog targeting cucumber, that way we will be able to learn more from experienced farmers like you. cucumber is a major salad crop and used in households throughout the year because of which demand is always high. sir, i do have a little question for you. what are the benefits of cultivating cucumber in protected farming, because their are many people who even do it outdoor and the fruit size is same.
also, i guess you meant ‘parthenocarpic cucumber’ . :slight_smile:

if parthenocarpic, which variety and company seeds do you prefer ?

thank you

Aman

Hi Vivek,

I am new to this forum and i am a IT professional who wish to venture in to agriculture in coming years. Your topic and further discussions gives me lot of knowledge and confidence in agriculture especially in the green house where we can create / manage to give suitable climate to the plants to grow and give yields more than traditional method. Thanks a lot for share such a important information and experiences.

I am about to start a polyhouse farming in my land which is near to Ranipet, Vellore district, Tamil nadu. unfortunately no subsidy from horticulture board of Tamilnadu. :frowning:

I have a question, might be strange one. is it possible to grow black pepper in the polyhouse by providing suitable climate? because of the demand and good price for black pepper, is it viable to try it in the polyhouse?

BR\Sethu

hello VIKS

Are you using the same set up to cultivate capsicum every year ? i mean can we take capsicum crop in the same polyhouse/greenhouse every year ?

aman

hey Mr.Ak,
i use coal to provide Ga to cucumber and grapes… i dont use any chemical, so thats about it…

Hello Mr.Sethu,
really surprising to know there are no subsidies in your location. have you checked with NHM and NHB as well ?

black pepper is good, but then how much quantity are you expecting from 1 acre of polyhouse?

polyhouse cost is high, 1 acre would be anywhere starting from 15-20 lakhs. then the machinery setup additional. so will the production of blackpepper and the price be justified for your investment?

i really dono how much production one blackpepper plant gives and the cycle, life etc. so if you work out the details and find the returns are fair, i think its an excellent idea.

Vivek

hey Aman, this is my 3rd capsicum crop in the same setup, same soil, same beds.

crop rotation is advisable, and i have heard and read a lot about it, but never done it.

Vivek

NUTRIENT FOR THE DAY - BORON

Boron is used for flower development and conversion to fruit.
this is for capsicum, not for cucumber.

Vivek

Hello again Mr.Ak and Aman,

just curious to know how do you give Ga to your cucumber plants?

Vivek