Sure i have all the data required, only thing is my production hasn’t come up yet. Whereas you have been doing it from past 3 years, but still whatever data i have m willing to share that
Also about low cost fertilisers, i remember us talking about it but i guess their we didn’t discuss it thoroughly Lets do it now, let me know whats in your mind
I was talking about fertilizers, pesticides and fungicides. Everything. Like a combined package, how can we bring down the fertigation cost because few days back i met a farmer in my region who has converted his farm into total organic and his fertigation cost is almost nill which eventually leads a higher profit margin for his crop in spite of production being lower than his fellow farmers plus he is at a lower risk because his inputs are minimum hence even if a crop fails, he has nothing to lose except obviously the seed whereas his neighbours are in debt of people from where they purchased fertilizers etc
Thats what motivates me to use these cultures and worms etc, i am not talking about converting purely to organic but yea we can surely try out some of those methods in our setup too
Using fertilizers at such a high quantity will never be viable for marginal farmers, you and me can still cooperate and get the project work but lets build full proof method where, initial setup investment plus the running cost is much lower than it is now
Also, about cheap fertilisers. Currently i am using aries npk, which are costing me above 2000 per 25 kg bag each, but i know a lot of farmers in my region who are interested in polyhouse farming but they only back out after looking at such a high running cost. In their words “bhaiya aap toh kharid loge itne mehenge khaad but hum kaise kar payenge itna, isse acha toh rice and wheat hai humare liye”, i want to change this for everyone and also for my better business. Like me being little innovative in all this . just kidding. But seriously lets bring down the production cost and running cost, and prove to be a better business man.
I forgot to discuss this
In my ph their has been a lot of fruit drop recently and also the fruits are little odd shaped, plus i feel the plant isnt ready to ripe all the fruits, i feel its too young right now
Should i get them harvested when they are still green, like my first harvest and then let my second batch be color capsicum because i think then the plAnts will get more time to develop and produce better yield and fruits. Also the tying has been a lot mishap but it has come under control now when the fruits were still on it. So i feel that is also one reason for it not to like ripe properly or something. Also i noticed that their are 3-4 fruits in every stem, also the week stems, which i feel are not at all in a state to develop the fruit color
For the second batch i plan to keep only the selected branches and remove the unwanted ones which are unnecessarily taking up plant’s energy.
1.1st picture was taken when the plants were down due to overdose of planofix but the plants regained its strength within 3 days and are back to normal, though because of this all the flowers were dried down.
2nd and 3rd pictures are to show you the amount and quality of fruits in a single plant. All the other plants have much higher amount of fruits with slightly better quality and size(sorry can’t find those pictures)
p.s leaves of these two plants were accidentally removed by one of my worker, he misunderstood my instruction. not a big damage though, gave me a chance to take pictures and provide you guys a better view
Thank you Sir for your Picks for the Guidance of our Forum Members.
The leaves should not be Picked . Only Dried and yellowish leaves be removed.
No Problem the Plants will be recovered fully from the effect of Plano-fix. No problem it is Harmon.
Kindly clarify that the Fruits seems to be Small . The variety is like that or any nutrient Deficiency.
Further also clarify whether can’t we grow exotic Vegetable in the shade-net instead of Poly hose.
Poly house is Costlier than that of Shade net. kindly Clarify sir you are being a experienced Farmer.
ThnQ Sir,
MANNE.SN,
Vasudha Green Farms,
09133498366.
i am attaching some pictures which looks like thrips attack to me, please do check and confirm and also kindly suggest the treatments that were effective for you
As seen from the Pics, it seems to be Viral Disease. Kindly ensure whether you have done the seed treatment.
As per the pics it is not seems to be thrifs. It might only be Viral. However if you are following Chemical method you use any pesticides like Democron, Cypermithrin etc. If you are following Organic Spray Neem oil .
Finally if these are not controlled you spray Panchagya which can control Virus also to save the other Plants. Panchagya is only the rmidy for the Virus Control.
Do you think virus attack can be cured because i have heard that viral diseases are the hardest to control. Also you have suggested pesticides for viral disease dont you think even some antibiotics will be required as well ?
Also, preparing panchgavga is a 30 days process, do you think plants will be able to resist till then ?
Kindly go through my Posting. I have suggested Pesticides for thrifts Occurred. As seen the Plants, it might be thrifts or Virus. Unless we see physically we cannot identify the Problem. I have suggested the Pesticides if the th thrifts are taken place. Virus cannot be controlled with any Chemicals. I have suggested Panchagavya to control further spreading of Virus. Panchagavya has already showed proved performance of Virusproblem.
Hi Aman,
u must be all confused yea ? i swear i am
ok the first set of pictures, the seed quality is reflecting on the plant. the fruit quality is not upto mark. plus the plants are small and weak. you’ll have to take extra care and drench these plants as they dont have leaves, so work from the root zone.
about the second set of pics, its NOT virus. its copper deficiency, as the leaves are green, and have upward curling from the edges and bubbling inbetween.
for flower dropping, its natural, the plant will drop the excessive buds, if its more then it either cause of the humidity fluctuation which has happened due to the foggers or your pumping in Nitrogen. so cut it off totally and the plant will start focusing on the buds. take a spray of Folic & Amino Acid and then repeat a boron + nitro benzene.
I have clearly mentioned to control Spreading the Viral Disease for the remaining Plants. It ha a Proven Performance. The logic behind is that the Plant will have the resist ency power in preventing Viral disease. I have experienced in Tomato Crop Last Year. I used to treat the seed with Pancha Gavya, a BOON to the Farming Community. But should be Prepared systamatically with the Cow Dung and Cow Urine.
Viks leaves are less only in 2 plants from the whole lot, so others have alot of leaves from top to bottom. I have cut down nitrogen since the initiation of flowering which was around 15 days back , no nitrogen givenfrom my side except capcium nitrate
I will work my schedule a little more.
Also whats your take on my earlier posts. The one in the second last page. ,???
Thanks for your prompt reply!!!
Rightly said, very few arijeet’s exist. The name means ‘one who could win over his enemies’…
After reading all recent posts, the first thing that comes up in mind is - Should I go for polyhouse or a shadenet? Shadenet is comparatively cheaper right??? If the produce doesn’t take a beating I see no reason going for a polyhouse just coz the whole world is going for it. Like you said polyhouses/greenhouse are ideal for cold countries but ours being a hot climate, do we really need to regularise the temperature as much as in a cold country for which they use polyhouses?
Since I am starting, would rather start with the right thing. Whats your view??
And yeah…I do not own a harley, but have always wanted one!!! (Don’t all real men want one???)
Hello Arijeet,
I am in the same position as yours. I also want to start an agricultural venture but dont know should go for polyhouse, shadenet or simply do open farming. One very strong feeling I have is that I dont want to use chemicals, pesticides or any such thing which is basically to ‘KILL’ any kind of living form. Why should I grow something which I would not want to eat? Why should I let the world eat something we are not sure is good for our health and not good even for the environment? But at the same time I want to make money when i am investing huge money in buying land(lands are very expensive now), setup a polyhouse which will again need good amount of investment. Hence I am very confuse as to what to do. I hope u keep sharing your thoughts and so will I. And we will come to a conclusion soon.
I am happy we are on farmnest and in good company of Chandra, Vivek, Aman and all others who are sharing their experiences and knowledge. Thank u guys, do keep the chat alive guys, I am reading every bit of it.
I agree to what you say. No using chemical fertilizers is desired, but then using ones that are truly required deems necessary. The experts here have been throwing light on what they use, and not all are harmful else they would have been banned. But what to use and to what extent is something we need to learn.
Also just read a post on facebook yesterday which wanted to share with all - ‘Do not wait; the time will never be ”just right.” Start where you stand, and work with whatever tools you may have at your command, and better tools will be found as you go along. -Napoleon Hill -’
Prash why to think so much about it, just start with organic in your polyhouse, its not harder than using chemicals but definitely more fruitful, i agree the production will be a little low compared to chemical farming but once your soil health builds up then you will start gaining from it, and also when converted to organic your production cost will be much lower to the one doing chemical farming and yield will almost be same after a year of harvest or so
It solves both the purpose, but in the starting i wont recommend you to go completely organic at one go stop using chemical pesticides and fungicides but continue to use npk fertilizers along with diff cultures, and manures. Then slowly reduce that as well and definitely you will see results. I have converted my 30 percent of open farm into organic this year and continuously thriving to convert the rest as well.
Its a continuos and long process, one needs to keep his calm and patience during the whole process
Aman, talking about such conditions, say if the organic farmers crop fails, you say he has nothing to loose… well … see man… the most important element in running ANY successful business is TIME.
plants are not like machine that we start getting production instantly. so while the crop fails, there are inputs, plus a lot of time you have lost.
and fertigation & pesticides hardly costs anything if are used wisely.
we were talking about the production cost, your produce hasnt started, thats ok… but there is a daily running cost. my target is so have a maximum of Rs 200-300 budget for a pesticide barrel. and thats like once in 4-5 days. about fertigation, it hardly costs 5000-7000 a month.
so my point is, considering the result these products give, against the risk, its wiser to spend on them yea.
i will give you one advise, if you are going to get into farming, get into it ASAP.
there’s lot of competition coming up everyday. plus the cost of all the material is gona go up.
and as a golden rule, sooner any projects starts, the sooner it starts generating returns
today if we talk about international market there are growers who dont care if their produce is sold for Rs 1/kg, cause they have already recovered their cost, as the setups being old.
what do you think is better using Panchagavya or targeting the carriers of virus ?
if you dont mind, can you plz brief us about the process of making the same ?
