Thanks, Mr Ramu.
How much MEBH 11 seeds do I need per acre for intercrop with drumstick?
Also how long does it take for the seedlings to be transplanted? I am thinking of planting
the seeds while sunhemp is growing.
The soil preparation cost would be around Rs 1 lac per acre to follow the methods suggested by you.
Lime (7MT) is the most expensive.
Dear Mr.Gopinath
Human mind is like monkey that never settle on one place ,just hopping here and there …
Seems you are willing to learn too much in short time
Theory can guide people into doing cultivation but the result is solely resting on how you manage actual field condition during cultivation …
Needs lot of time to master things …
My best advice is please first prepare your land starting with preparatory cultivation
I will just tell you what exactly to do by the time you practically initiate the work …
The western ghat is carrying thick forest vegetation and eastern chat is carrying thorny shrubs
Soil type , fertility and type of vegetation is determined by climate and underlying bedrock …
To make eastern ghat like westernghat with thick vegetation , you need to spend stupendous money …
Likewise to make your soil productive you need to spend lot of money at least initially for first two cultivation
If you are scared of huge investment , better do organic farming with locally available organic inputs .It will sustain your income though not too big
If you are not confident about successful farming practices that you can fend for , please do the way you like to do to your level best with least investment
At the present cost of inputs and labor that are costly , it is advisable to do conventional farming
Regards
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Dear Mr.Gopinath
Human mind is like monkey that never settle on one place ,just hopping here and there …
Seems you are willing to learn too much in short time
Theory can guide people into doing cultivation but the result is solely resting on how you manage actual field condition during cultivation …
Needs lot of time to master things …
My best advice is please first prepare your land starting with preparatory cultivation
I will just tell you what exactly to do by the time you practically initiate the work …
The western ghat is carrying thick forest vegetation and eastern chat is carrying thorny shrubs
Soil type , fertility and type of vegetation is determined by climate and underlying bedrock …
To make eastern ghat like westernghat with thick vegetation , you need to spend stupendous money …
Likewise to make your soil productive you need to spend lot of money at least initially for first two cultivation
If you are scared of huge investment , better do organic farming with locally available organic inputs .It will sustain your income though not too big
If you are not confident about successful farming practices that you can fend for , please do the way you like to do to your level best with least investment
At the present cost of inputs and labor that are costly , it is advisable to do conventional farming
Regards
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Dear Mr Ramu
Please don’t get me wrong. I am 100% committed in carrying out precision farming as I firmly believe in long term viability of the project. I will start with 1 acre and gradually expand to several acres. My goal is to ensure that the income from this cultivation would be sufficient to take care of most of the expenses of the orphanage I am planning to setup. Also In this process I hope the other farmers in the village adopt these scientific methods and reap rewards.
BTW I have adopted the village through the AP smart village program
Thanks
Gopinath
Dear dds,
I appreciate your hunger for learning, despite some sneer. I went through the same cycle.
Please go through governemnet sites which mention about true harvest numbers rather than hyped up numbers.
One such site is TNAU site ( agritech.tnau.ac.in/ ) which provides step by step guidance what needs to be done with respect to each and every crop.
For horticultural crops abour which you are interested the link is: agritech.tnau.ac.in/horticulture … index.html
Please spend time on these sites to learn rather than trying to get selective knowledge provided by apparent masters.
Even if you get 75% of the harvest what the site is mentioning you will be successful.
Please do not depend on a single entity for knowledge and try different sources. For example get the book “Handbook of Horticulture”. The relevant links is: amazon.in/Handbook-Horticult … a5e67446bd
Please do not lose your enthusiasm by seemingly more knowledgeable entities. Knowledge can always be gained, but humbleness is what is the need of the hour.
Regards
Shan
Insha Allah !
The Science & Tech column of THE HINDU dated 31 st January 2008 clearly mentioned the continuing success of precision farming and the real success of 170 MT of brinjal harvest in just 120 cents .
Only some soil are suitable and meant for cultivation of specific crop and can produce high yield upto our expectation and some other soil ,inspite of being soil for the name sake , will not be considered suitable for growing any of the cultivated crop but waste land shrubs like prosophis julifera can grow well .
To say specifically the clay soil with predominantly clay minerals will never be a choice for cultivation of any of the crops excepting rice crops to certain extent .We call it potters’ soil .Because it is most suitable for making toys and pots meant for domestic use in the kitchen and young new born children
Unfortunately the person has tried his experiment by cultivating in potters’ soil and miserably failed . Also he concluded what he saw in his land only was practically possible and all others are hyped …
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Thanks Shri Shri Ramu Sir, for clearly mentioning that nothing will grow on clay soil except rice and some shrubs like prosophis julifera (nice name).
But I wonder why, some individual was demanding INR 40000 per month promising that his boys will grow vegetables in the clay soil successfully?
Also, the same individual promised that 9 cares of clay soil will generate 50 Lakhs/Year (YES SIR, 50 LAKHS/Year) by cultivating brinjal in the SAME CLAY SOIL (POTTERS SOIL).
And the same individual promised that his boys (INR 40000/Month guys) can do wonders with only 6 months of traning (B.Sc Agri needs 4 years to complete and still the graduates do not know the technology properly)
All these promises were given AFTER the individual TESTED the POTTER’S SOIL for clayeness… Class act, don’t you think?
What do you call those kind of opportunistic people whose profession seems to pump up the hype?
Do you think the owner of 9 acres should be grateful to the self-aggrandizing individual?
Anyways, I am VERY GRATEFUL to you, that you clearly mentioned that potters soil is of no use whatsoever. I will request the owner of the clayey soil to make pots and toys. He also will be GRATEFUL to you for your sneer.
Sanappu and Gypsum might help, I guess 
And I humbly state that any low grade farmer also surely knows about Sanappu and Gypsum.
Only GODS like you who can do “COMMERCIAL VEGETABLE PROJECT IN A TOUGHEST AND CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT” can pull off something impossible on POTTER’s SOIL.
And the owner of the 9 acres is no GOD like you. He is just a layman carried away by some opportunistic people.
And the person you think have failed on the potter’s soil has not even started on the potter’s soil.
He is still trying to seperate facts from hype and good people from corrupt ones.
Imagination is a serious problem for hype generators.
But I humbly think, Hype is Hype, no matter what…
I am trying to help people, even though I am clayey brained, who might get carried away by hype.
I HOPE YOU AGREE WITH ME
And this is the last mail on the subject, since I do not want to get involved with corruption or hype.
Regards
Shan
PS: The news item you shared is from 2008, and are they getting the same yield consistently through out the coming years? THINK and THANKS AGAIN
Mr.Shanmugasundaram …
First see where your role is called for in this thread …One gentleman called Mr.Ashok asked for for details about banana cultivation . To honor his request , I started this thread and posted relevant information .
Then Mr.Gopinath asked for some details about intercropping . I too posted the information that he sought for and again he kept asking for more information.Having thought this sort of deliberation would end up nowhere , I politely concluded this topic saying him to first start cultivation and then to ask if any issues are encountered . Because I am not sitting idle here to respond all the querries online as I have got hectic work waiting on my shoulder to be finished in time
All of a sudden you come across this topic and commented the way you fomented within for no reason whatsoever .What is your role here? If you wanted to advise anybody , you do the way that only address the person cencerned to the point of need . Do you think you are too smart to hint on others ? If at all you wanted to poke your nose , do poke your’s elsewhere there you feel very chill .
Have I ever offered my service to you or do you think I am at your command or disposal ? who the hell are you to make comment at me ?
I never ever asked you to hire any of the boys . You only volunteered and cringed before me . However I never personally asked you to hire any of the boys .I just posted the matter on line in this forum and left to choice of only those who are interested to hire . I never ever involved in this case except posting the matter on line . The boys number were posted and it was the business purely between the boys and the person that needed boys .
Have I ever dictated to you about the salary ? You only were interacting with them and it is your funeral to fix the issue or leave aside . Or do you think the boys are my relatives or I am running man power consultancy services or do you think I am running businesss about the boys or farming ? what the hell are your comments directed at ?
You say the Newspaper matter is dated 2008 and question about the consistency in getting the same yield all through years now.What do you think about evolution ? Do you think the human being that evolved through hundreds of thousands of years to the present level of ultramodern civilization will go back to primitive culture or animal life ? what do you say ? it is progressive evolution ? I am afraid what your status would be like now in the time scale of evolution …Think twice before making unusual comments Mr.shanmugasundaram …
If you have any doubts about science and technology and its role in improved production and enhanced life standard with special reference to Agriculture , It is not my job or responsilbilities to clarify your doubts .
You keep sending personal messages to consult your land for fixing drip irrigation. But I was totally obssessed with my official work and I did not want to misdirect or misguide you . SO I waited for suitable time to reply but I think this might have killed your ego and made you foment exceessively to make uninvited intrution and post bitter comments on the topic that is no way related to you .what is this ? Thank god I find what exactly you are .
Here in chennai lot of people are consulting on so many farms with monthly earning of Rs.one lac or more . In your dictionary so called opportunists .
I was also invited by lot of people to consult their farms and I also had an opportunity of earning more than aforesaid sum but I declined politely .Because I was afraid I might encounter people like you and thought value and presitge counts more than money .
Do you think anybody is paying for hype or I am being paid for posting hyped message ? Please let me know if anybody is paying for hype…
I posted the matter of Brinjal cultivation in a very toughest and challenging environment and pointed what actually were encountered in the field condition .Some of our forum members wanted to know more about brinjal cultivation . So I invited them to learn practically in the field . Have I ever charged anything from any of them or you paid anything to me or I demanded anything from you ? Tell me Mr.shanmugasundaram …Do I owe you any debt that might otherwise be a compulsion to explain everything in the hot sun that day ? Many people attended the field visit .One among them was Mr.Rakesh from hyderabad that is doing tomato cultivation after the field visit .Whenever he happens to encounter field problem , he used to post his querries and I am answering him …Do I charge anything from him or he is being corrupted ? Tell Mr.Shanmugasundaram …
See I am not earning anything from anybody through this or any of the other online forum .Instead I keep spending Rs.1500 to Rs.2000 everymonth just to help few needy and helpless farmers .Certainly not for the people like you . I think you will make note of this statement . I am least bothered about your message or hints .
Wishing you in advance for Vinayaga chathurthi , my dear friend .
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