I think these are good places, not sure about water, wikimapia shows it as green, should be good. Anything 100 km to Bangalore, will make your produce get better price.
Hi Hegde,
Any idea about the prevailing prices there ??
Many on this forum are very apprehensive about 79A and 79B, is it enforced strictly ? If so how come many guys buy land in and around Devanahalli where rates are running in crores, The guidance value itself would be in tens of lakhs. ? The this 2 lakh limit is ridiculous.
Then I need to start a new thread how earn crores in agriculture . 
Regards
Murali
Hi Murali,
as you rightly said… its just ridiculous but thats what feeds our burocracy and govt babus well. If 79A 79B is seriously implemented none of the lands could be transacted which has guidance price more than 2 lakhs.
Before great Yeddi was sent out , a proposal was in consideration to amend this, but looks like that proposal is also retired along with Yeddi
For now nothing is happening seriously , but if a particular section wants to take you for a ride at some point we could be an easy target. At least thats what is stopping me from doing any further development/investment into it. i.e. fear of loosing all together.
Need to muster enough courage 
Hi hedge, murali and anyone else who is loooking for land
what are your views about madanapalle in AP?
Brijesh,
Lands appear to be available , but water is the major concern you will have to dig deeper than 500ft . People are quoting anywhere from
2 lakhs t0 40 lakhs depending on where we are looking at.
One thing is for sure , its better if one person is gathering information , else it will create an unnecessary demand in the area driving prices up. So be cautious in while approaching brokers in the area.I am in the middle of a deal zeroed in on the land but negotiations going on.
Negatives I see are
1).The connectivity is not as good as Tumkur/hiriyur. We will be going by state highways and not National Highways.
2).Power is not adequate in AP ( not sure how good is teh situation in Karnataka)
Positives:( told by the locals/brokers)
Weather is as nice as bangalore
Good for horticultural puposes
Wind speeds are not high it seems
How many acres are your looking for? drop me a pm as I have two options in TN which can be looked at together if you are game
regards,
Brijesh
Yes, agri_exec, you are right. Although I am a newbie, personally I feel you cannot pre-plan and draw case studies without actually knowing where and what kind of land you will own and cultivate. It’s like counting your chickens before they hatch. When planning about bananas, do you know if the climate and soil will support the crop or what if monkey menace exists in that area? If it was so easy to earn a lakh per acre, why will a farmer sell his land in the first place? If you really want everything to go as per plan then go for green house farming near your city. Or grow exotic flowers/vegetables in polyhouses where the vagaries of nature can be controlled to some extent. Open land farming is susceptible to various factors most of them are uncontrollable and require lot of monitoring, hard work and time. Finally even if we get a bumper crop, we are not sure what price it will fetch in the market. And then you have to fight with diseases/virus/root rot/nematodes/soil deficiencies etc.
The best bet would be to go for timber trees over a gestation period of 7-8 years. After this you will become a crorepati and you need not even sell your land as you will have got back your initial investment several times over. I am not discouraging farming but only against inexperienced city investors expecting unrealistic guaranteed returns every year without considering the various risk factors and uncertainties in this field. Another factor is life-style. If you live far away from the city in rural area for a long time, you will lose touch with your friends and relatives and money will have no meaning then. Sorry, but this is my personal opinion/perception. Buy land but as a long term investment only.
Regds,
-JP
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Hello all
Please excuse the long background note, but I want you all to know where I am coming from, so your advice can be more nuanced.
I am based at Amritsar, in Punjab. Am a businessman with background in Rice Milling (family business), International Trade and a personal stint as a Software Entrepreneur.
I have been long dis-satisfied with city life, especially my too much intra time-zone travel mode. Thought about simplifying the life many times, especially as I slowly lost the enthu for traveling to new places and playing tourist in between business moments. Coming home, staying at home, eating home food & just relaxing had started to matter more than evening out, clubbing or similar evening activities.
Farming was one idea that suggested itself again & again and I toyed with it, researched it a bit, talked to few farmers I met during my stint as a Rice Miller and discarded it as a sensible business, in view of the debt trap of excessive costs & fluctuating markets, that these guys were in. And frankly, even after all that effort, it was easier to do nothing……to give a sop to myself that I had tried!!
Then came time of International food shortages, of food price hikes with spillovers to India too, especially keeping in mind that the Indian babus & their political masters were not nimble enough to play the International commodity game and their inept actions gave a push to price actions….a boost to price spikes & a push down to the price slumps.
Still, I saw most farmers around me making money and the itch to do something increased….the sop that these may be a fluke was suddenly not enough!! and some serious thought….some serious research started!
It was around this time that I actually tried to research about what was different this time….why were they not profitable then & why now……why some were still losing money when most were not…why someone makes money & someone loses & so on…
It was around this time….beginning of 2011, that I came across details about organic farming….which to me till then, were fads & scams run by westerners. Researched differences between organic & chemical farming and came upon Natural farming & so on…
It was at this time, around Feb 2011 that I started registering at Indian forums like this one and reading about Indian farmers who knew what was wrong & were doing things in a different way and succeeding at it (cowherd, savera farms & many others). Still I researched further & dithered till last month….just near New Year….I knew that I did not need to take a decision….it was already made, somehow in the back of my mind, I was aware of it too….and that was why I was researching lands & land costs, in addition to farming issues!
I am going to turn natural farmer and shift to a rural landscape and improve my quality of life!
Sanjay.
Next post: My issues, my tentative decisions & my search for land (subject to modifications from advice, further research & encounter with realities in execution).
[/quote] The discussions so far has thrown enough light on venturing into agriculture. Agriculture is a noble profession. you practice it and nature will bless you with all the happiness you deserve.
Hi New entrants?
Owning land & getting marriage is once in life time, but some times it may more than one.
However, it is always advisable to choose land as for your (including your family members) personal interest, but not in terms of money. Murali informed that he should reach his land after driving 2 & add hours by car or 4 hours through bus.
The selected land should be convenient even to any of female members of your family as alway you may not be free to go there or stay in farm. In feature you can take decision even to not to own vehicle on your own. Can check this with Navadarshanam where all people from different areas are gathered together even they got the land on lease to lead their rest of the life through cooperative model like all are from one origin. In addition to this, it should also convenient for all aged people needs in the family as they may also required to visit/stay their in the land for short or long term.
One should think in such a way where they should get peace for rest of their life even doing purely agriculture ( I know you can take such decision at any point of time) and it should be convenient for nearest town/market & other essentials.
You can also detach from modern communication devices after knowing/exposing radiation from them, that you only knows.
Even for the other unknown reasons, it is always advisable to choose your land after your personal verification with all other reasons than the above for rest of your peaceful/fruitful life.
Above all, it is the choice of a person who is going for it. All the best
I totally agree with Swamy, there is no point in buying land just for the sake of it. Remote places are like hell. Nothing will be in your favor even if you want to live there. Best is to buy with in 100 kms from where you live even at little extra.
Regards
Murali
Those who are eager to purchase land and do farming are best advised to be practical in all aspects and study the pros and cons of everything related to farming. There should be younger generation to follow your foot steps in future. it is not like purchasing a car and dispose it whenever you wish to. it is fine to have fancy but it fizzles out over the period. only those with determination and detachment from urban culture can survive otherwise one will end up as losers.
Well said sir.
Dear Swamy/Murali… Through i can understand your perspective on what you said about distance. But I differ for following aspects.
First of all one need to differentiate between farming for living or farming for hobby …? If teh answer is Farming for Hobby then i would advice buying as near as possible to city and for get about returns and return on investments. In teh worst case scenario you might have well appreciatedd real estate down the line for your kids or grand kids.
If the answer is farming for living, we need to consider the cost of land as primary factor. If we purchase high priced land the return on investment is not at all feasible.As we have to be prepared for other costs We just cant spend all our money in acquiring the land. Our aim is to earn better than the Bank interest right else we wont be taking all the risks.In that case any farm near to city will be expensive .
Even if its a 500,000/acre a 100,000/annum earning is just about 20% of the invested amount+input costs
Where as on a land of 200,000/acre same 100,000 /annum is almost 50% of teh invested amount+input costs
So we need to have a clear understanding about 'why we want to do ? … what we want to do? ’ If we want to change the decision midway there will be hardships to face.
Hi?
In addition to economics, there are other important things which are forgetting.
Interests of your heart, soul, family, your expertise etc. If a lay man can earn good returns, than educated can get more productivity than a layman.
Again you are the final person to take decision, All the best.
Hi Karnic and natureworx,
There is a stupid law here in karnataka, one side the land prices have been jacked up by the land mafia, on the other hand there is this dreaded income and farmer status rules.
That is the reason, most of the sane guys want to play safe by not venturing into agriculture. Limited to only those who have inherited lands. Though there are ways, but not legal.
Can any one throw some light on lease of agriculture land. How to go about it. Can we take on lease for 99 years some land. RTC has a column of tenancy. Is legal leasing allowed to non farmers ??
Regards
Murali
yes Mr.murali. Any one can have agriculture for agriculture purpose. There are certain restriction for buying land to prevent usurping land from SC/ST.
Swami ji,
I do agree that its up to the individual to make their final decision.
One need to be clear about their purpose of farming ,if the purpose of farming is just hobby or to make money and live on the farm and enjoy the simple and natural life with all friends of nature.
IF we leave the economics ,to satisfy these( i.e. ‘Interests of your heart, soul, family, your expertise etc. If a lay man can earn good returns, than educated can get more productivity than a layman.’ ) location is not a constraint.
Its just my opinion.
Thanks
Karnic saab,
Through on paper it sounds good i.e. to prevent usurping land from SC/ST, But it never gets achieved .Govt is the first to take the assigned lands from poor andnot pay any money also .
And this great is a big boon to all bureaucrats to get their income flowing from unknown sources:).
Instead of pegging a hard figure of 200,000 why don’t they link it to the floating figure like to govt value of land. Govt has revised land rates at least 50 times over last 20 years but they wont revise the income limit in the last 20 years.Govt is happy to fool them selves about all the 10 lakh+/acre lands are being purchased by agriculturists only.
Unfortunately none of the educated wannabe farmers (Including me) are raising voice with Govt in form of PIL, asking the rationale. Especially All the barren lands that are not even being used for cultivation.
Yes i agree with you sir. I feel there is a way out for questioning the legality of the ban on purcahse of agriculture land by non agriculturist for agriculture/horticulture/diary purpose as denial of fundamental rights
Dear All Senior Members!
Intro: I am a Finance Professional in chennai, interested in farming. I have been reading ‘Pasumai Vikatan’ for 3 years & got very much interested in Farming.
In search of practical guide, I ended up identifying our ‘Farmnest.com’ where I can see the right solutions for all sort of queries. I have read a lot, right from, problems in identifying a land to usefulness of Rain gun in farming.
I have read the postings by Seniors like Swamy, Murali, GP Rao, Bijeresh etc., who all have enriched knowledge & thankful to them.
After some legwork, I had bought one piece of land (One Acre, near Thiruthani, Chennai). I plan to start my farming in this land. The land is located at the foot of a hill and has red soil. Near to my land, there is one big Mango grove. Seems mango grows good here. I am yet to do soil testing.
I am interest in Organic & Integrated farming. Initially, I plan to plant 50 mango saplings (at 20 feet spacing) & 40 coconut saplings (at 20 feet spacing) within the one acre and plant Malai Vembu in the border (at 10 feet spacing). I am also interested in creating a farm pond for rain water storage. (we chennaites have no underground water & I want to help a little bit to Mother Nature). I want to do the base works in this summer, so that I can start with forthcoming monsoon.
I am enclosing my draft plan, for Expert’s Opinion & Correction please.
Thanks & Regards
Babu
ACA, ACMA.
Dear All,
I HAVE 32 ACRES OF LAND IN TWO DISTT OF M.P., I WISH TO ASSOCIATE SOME MEMBERS FOR COMMUNITY LIVING AND SUSTAINABLE FARMING ,
MY CONCEPT IS TO CREATE ECO VILLAGE THERE,
REGDS